Comments on: All of the Voices in My Head (getting organized) http://darkmyroad.org/2009/06/25/all-of-the-voices-in-my-head-getting-organized/ A Lutheran View of Depression Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:07:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: All of the Voices in My Head (getting organized) « Finding Optimism http://darkmyroad.org/2009/06/25/all-of-the-voices-in-my-head-getting-organized/comment-page-1/#comment-7530 All of the Voices in My Head (getting organized) « Finding Optimism Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:33:37 +0000 http://darkmyroad.org/?p=415#comment-7530 [...] by I Trust When Dark My Road [...] [...] by I Trust When Dark My Road [...]

]]> By: Pr. Johann Caauwe http://darkmyroad.org/2009/06/25/all-of-the-voices-in-my-head-getting-organized/comment-page-1/#comment-7523 Pr. Johann Caauwe Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:18:33 +0000 http://darkmyroad.org/?p=415#comment-7523 I've done the back and forth between organization/GTD apps and I too have settled on Things (for Mac and iPhone). I've been pretty happy with it so far. I don't know what it's like to be any kind of office exec or other professional who would have a similar kind of workload to a pastor, but it seems to me that the comprehensive nature of the ministry just begs for the kind of organization that keeps us from having our heads explode with all the oversight, planning, projects, ideas, relationships. Looking forward to reading the book. I've done the back and forth between organization/GTD apps and I too have settled on Things (for Mac and iPhone). I've been pretty happy with it so far.

I don't know what it's like to be any kind of office exec or other professional who would have a similar kind of workload to a pastor, but it seems to me that the comprehensive nature of the ministry just begs for the kind of organization that keeps us from having our heads explode with all the oversight, planning, projects, ideas, relationships.

Looking forward to reading the book.

]]> By: Rick Ritchie http://darkmyroad.org/2009/06/25/all-of-the-voices-in-my-head-getting-organized/comment-page-1/#comment-7522 Rick Ritchie Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:07:07 +0000 http://darkmyroad.org/?p=415#comment-7522 I second the vote for David Allen's system, from his book Getting Things Done. I have been implementing it in stages, and I agree with Dave. When he says that the advantage to this is NOT having to have things in your mind, he is right. I second the vote for David Allen's system, from his book Getting Things Done. I have been implementing it in stages, and I agree with Dave. When he says that the advantage to this is NOT having to have things in your mind, he is right.

]]> By: Susan http://darkmyroad.org/2009/06/25/all-of-the-voices-in-my-head-getting-organized/comment-page-1/#comment-7520 Susan Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:45:38 +0000 http://darkmyroad.org/?p=415#comment-7520 I don't have much problem with 1, 2, and 4. And I've keep putting activities on the chopping block, as Jeanelle said. The thing I really struggle with is 3 -- planning for relaxation. If I don't plan it, I always hoard it in snippets of less-than-refreshing ways, and end up accomplishing little and still not feeling rested. That work ethic that was instilled in me just won't let go! The other thing that I'm struggling with is slowing down with age. I used to be able to keep track of more things in my brain. I used to be able to accomplish tasks in less time. And my body didn't tire as quickly. So now a gardening job that "should" take an hour takes three. Or washing the sheets and changing the bedding takes practically the whole day, where it used to be one thing on a list of many chores for the day. I manage information by lists, lists, and more lists. As long as I manage to keep track of the lists, I'm okay. But once I lose a list, then the pressure is back to try to hold it all in my head and prioritize it, and then act on what needs to be done while remembering all the parts to the job and remembering the other 847 items still on the to-do list. I don't have much problem with 1, 2, and 4. And I've keep putting activities on the chopping block, as Jeanelle said. The thing I really struggle with is 3 — planning for relaxation. If I don't plan it, I always hoard it in snippets of less-than-refreshing ways, and end up accomplishing little and still not feeling rested. That work ethic that was instilled in me just won't let go!

The other thing that I'm struggling with is slowing down with age. I used to be able to keep track of more things in my brain. I used to be able to accomplish tasks in less time. And my body didn't tire as quickly. So now a gardening job that "should" take an hour takes three. Or washing the sheets and changing the bedding takes practically the whole day, where it used to be one thing on a list of many chores for the day.

I manage information by lists, lists, and more lists. As long as I manage to keep track of the lists, I'm okay. But once I lose a list, then the pressure is back to try to hold it all in my head and prioritize it, and then act on what needs to be done while remembering all the parts to the job and remembering the other 847 items still on the to-do list.

]]> By: ToddPeperkorn http://darkmyroad.org/2009/06/25/all-of-the-voices-in-my-head-getting-organized/comment-page-1/#comment-7519 ToddPeperkorn Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:19:35 +0000 http://darkmyroad.org/?p=415#comment-7519 Oh I have no problem with that, Jeannelle. I have done exactly that before. Sometimes you need to "reboot" and start over. Acedia is on my to read list. Oh I have no problem with that, Jeannelle. I have done exactly that before. Sometimes you need to "reboot" and start over.

Acedia is on my to read list.

]]> By: Jeannelle http://darkmyroad.org/2009/06/25/all-of-the-voices-in-my-head-getting-organized/comment-page-1/#comment-7516 Jeannelle Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:35:32 +0000 http://darkmyroad.org/?p=415#comment-7516 You won't like my answer......I've deleted my involvement in organizations and activities away from home. Its a wonderful freedom!! And, less stress (and, voices) from dealing with people. Hooray!! On a different subject......I'm reading the book "Acedia" by Kathleen Norris. You may not agree completely with her theology, but she offers keen insights on the subject of depression.......and "spiritual sloth". You won't like my answer……I've deleted my involvement in organizations and activities away from home. Its a wonderful freedom!! And, less stress (and, voices) from dealing with people. Hooray!!

On a different subject……I'm reading the book "Acedia" by Kathleen Norris. You may not agree completely with her theology, but she offers keen insights on the subject of depression…….and "spiritual sloth".

]]> By: Dave http://darkmyroad.org/2009/06/25/all-of-the-voices-in-my-head-getting-organized/comment-page-1/#comment-7515 Dave Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:49:20 +0000 http://darkmyroad.org/?p=415#comment-7515 Just out of curiosity, did you ever read or listen to David Allen, GTD? I think that his system is an attempt to quiet the voices and give some perspective. Certainly not perfect, but I think, vocationally, he has a point. He says you cannot keep stuff in your head, it will keep nagging you etc. Got to put it somewhere, where you will not lose it, and where you will review and put it into a place where it can be worked on etc. Just out of curiosity, did you ever read or listen to David Allen, GTD? I think that his system is an attempt to quiet the voices and give some perspective. Certainly not perfect, but I think, vocationally, he has a point. He says you cannot keep stuff in your head, it will keep nagging you etc. Got to put it somewhere, where you will not lose it, and where you will review and put it into a place where it can be worked on etc.

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